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What Time is the Last Train Home? Thursday, September 23, 1999 Metro's directors have voted to extend Metrorail's hours until 1 a.m. on Friday and Saturday nights. Currently, the system shuts down at midnight, forcing most concert-goers and clubbers to drive downtown and hunt for parking if they want to spend a night on the town. But what about you? Is one more hour of Metrorail likely to change your riding habits? Will you take Metro more often if you know you can catch the train after catching the headlining bands at the Black Cat or the 9:30 club? Or is one extra hour not enough to keep you from driving? Tell us your thoughts on extending Metrorail's hours. We'll publish the best responses each day. To begin, here's Nightwatch columnist Eric Brace's take on the situation: "The impact of extended Metro hours on area nightlife is hard to predict, but folks who do business after the sun goes down – restaurant and club owners, musicians, movie theater operators – all insist that their numbers would increase dramatically. . . . I suspect that once word is out, more and more places will stay open late. As more nightlife options present themselves, more people will ride Metro. As more people take the trains to go out on the town, more places will cater to them. A happy late-night cycle."
Reader responses: college park, md: I would definately ride the metro more since drinking and driving certainly don't mix, but leaving Adams Morgan at 11 PM is strictly for geeks. :
: Washington, D.C.: Washington's Metro Authority has only taken a small, but extremely needed, first step
Washington DC: The Clubs do not close until 2 or 3 AM. If I want to go out and dance till the club closes then I have to drive or take a cab. If the metro ran about every thirty minutes until 4 am on thursday - sunday then that would help me. But this is the city that doesnt open the DMV on weekends so I won't hold my breath. :
Germantown, MD:
I think that keeping the Metro open later until 1-3 am is a terrific idea if you want to revive the nightlife in DC. DC might become more like a "real" city then!
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Silver Spring, Maryland: That's not long enough. No one leaves the club - 1. The party is just getting started by then! Metrorail can only get us to the club. What about getting home? :
Springfield VA: I would take the Metro if it stayed open later. Midnight is just too early on the weekend. Parking is always difficult in Adams Morgan and Georgetown. It once took me almost one hour to find a parking spot, but you have to drive if you don't want to turn into a pumpkin. I think it should be opened longer than one am. At least until 2 am. More people would use the Metro and this would cut down -not eliminate- drinking and driving. Everybody would win. :
Washington, DC: Later closing hours are a good idea, but 1:00 a.m. isn't late enough when the bars don't close until 2:00. Last week, the Billy Bragg show at 9:30 didn't end until after midnight -- after the show, dozens of us concertgoers got soaked trying to flag down cabs at 9th and V -HA!-. For safety's sake, keep Metro open! :
washington, d.c.: Extending the metro hours is certainly a step in the right direction. I hate hunting -and paying- for parking downtown. But 1 a.m. is still too early. I vote for metro service until -at least- 3 a.m. on weekends. :
Arlington, VA: Typical. Make a half-hearted attempt that never had a chance and then declare that it doesn't work. 3 a.m. is the minimum until which Metro would have to be open to make it worth the effort at all. Most nightspots have a last call at 1:30; this would give everyone at most 90 minutes to make it to the station and home. Anything less is worse than not doing it at all. :
Takoma Park MD:
I'd love to see the Metro open earlier on Saturday and Sunday. That's when I need it.
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Arlington, VA:
Metro will try to use this half-measure as an "experiment" and then point to its failure as evidence that DC-area residents won't use later trains.
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Silver Spring, MD: It is great but not enough. I do not drink but I love to go dancing. It is hard to find a parking place and the metro is not open late enough to get me home. So I stay home. I am a new comer to the DC area and find it hard experience any type of night life with all the headaches of getting around the city. The Metro should stay open until atleast 2:30 or 3:00 am to allow everyone safe passage home. :
Washington, DC: I'd use the Metro-- but 1:00 still means that you're going to have to be watching the clock and run to the Metro at 12:30.... it's not late enough, so I'll probably keep with my current driving habits. :
Germantown, MD: I would definately venture to DC's night clubs more often if Metro was to run until 2:00am. I think it would revive the nightlife downtown. There are definately more clubs in DC than out here in the suburbs. You have to travel to a night club anyway so making Metro available would well worth it. :
alexandria va:
Why not keep it open till 3 AM on Saturday and Sunday mornings?
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Rosslyn, Virginia:
Personally I believe that the transportation authority -TA- is taking a step in the right direction. People need to support this new change to keep trains running until 1am. It is obvious that the TA won't keep the metro running until 3am anytime soon. Therefore we must support the decision to keep the metro open until 1am so that there will be a greater chance in the future of keeping the metro open until 3 or 4am.
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Arlington, VA: I'd defintely go downtown at night more if the Metro was going to run later. 1am is a good start, but 2am is better. Even if you're just going to a play or a movie downtown, you're stretching you're luck if you want to get coffee afterwards! I know that people think Washington is a buttoned down city, but there are great possibilities with better public transportation. :
Washington, D.C.:
Washington's Metro Authority has only taken a small, but extremely needed, first step toward changing the way the city thinks of itself.
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Silver Spring, MD.: One O'Clock is way to early. DC is a town that does not get started till 11 and 12. You will have just as many people on the roads as before. Metro needs to get the picture and serve all of its DC, MD, and VA residents weather they ride from 9-5 morning, day, or night. :
washington, dc.: Metro should stay open ALL NIGHT LONG on Friday and Saturday nights. This will reduce drunk driving and parking stress and increase business for the city's night spots. At the very least, it will spare us the misery of having to deal with the city's rude rip-off artists that call themselves cab drivers! :
DC:
Its hard to imagine that a metro closing time of anything before 3 am having a broad impact on people's behavior in terms of weekend travel around town. In the meantime, I will continue to use metro to get to clubs, concerts, etc and either walk or cab home.
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Washington, D.C.:
1 a.m. is not late enough for residents of the city to truly explore existing nightlife and to support new nightlife.
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Kensington, Maryland: They definately should increse the hours until 2:30 am on the weekends to incourage metro use. It would be much safer for drivers because less bargoers would be driving, or needing to find parking. Metro and D.C. would make more money because people would be more inclined to go downtown. Our area has grown so much that is is becoming more of a city. We should act like one. The suburban fantasy of rolling up the sidewalks at midnight no longer works. :
washington, dc: My question would be why even bother with an hour extension when anyone who rides metro on a regular basis can tell you the station really starts to shut down 10-20 minutes before midnight-depending which train your trying to catch- in it's regular operations. So does this mean with the new extended hours the final trains will be departing at 12:40 or 12:50? That doesn't sound like much of an extension to me. If they were really serious about increasing ridership on weekends with extended hours the should at least stay open until 2:00 or 2:30. :
Gaithersburg, MD: I dont think 1am would be late enough. It would be somwhat helpful. Most bars or shows do not end untill at least 2 am. Most people head down town around 10 or so. So, if you pay money to get in some where, you want to get its worth. Leaving at 12 or 12:30 to catch a 1am train, just isnt long enough. I think the whole idea of people wanting the hours extended was so that they could enjoy DC's night life to the full extent. That means hanging out until at least 3 am, sometimes untill dawn. :
Arlington, VA: 1 a.m. doesn't do it for me any better than midnight. Ridiculous. If you're really going out for a Friday or Saturday evening on the town, you're not likely to leave a dance club or bar until it closes, which is often closer to 2 a.m. I would much rather be able to take the Metro downtown and back to go out than drive, but there's no hope for that when the public transportation system shuts down so early. I'm going to make a valiant effort to take advantage of the 1 a.m. closings on the weekend just because I want to be a supporter of the program so the Metro Authority continues it and hopefully extends the hours. But 1 a.m. is hardly worth it. :
Fairfax VA: I like the idea. Several times I had to leave a performance at Wolf Trap before it ended because I had to catch the bus back to the Metro Station. I also have to do the same for theater events downtown. The extra hours would mean I would not have to rush and maybe enjoy DC more. :
Rockville, MD:
This form of 'test' proposal is not very practical. By adding only one additional hour, METRO is unlikely to increase ridership. However, if the time were increased to say, 4 am, then METRO would be a viable alternative. Since this 'test' is not an acceptable substitute, expect no great increase in usage and the Metro fact finding trial outcome to be to discontinue the later hours.
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Montgomery Village, MD: I would not ride metro when they extend the hour to 1:00am. If they extended to 3:00am if would. I do think they are doing the right thing in trying out the extension until 1:00am. Keeping Metro open for one hour is expensive for them. If amount of people using the trains goes up, then they could try operating an hour later. What people don't realize is that Metro is trying. I give them credit for that. :
Washington, DC: The metro should be running at least until 3 on Thursday, Friday and Saturday nights. With the abundance of college students and 20-30's crowd going out late, there's market for the service. In addition, those who don't spend their weekend nights in the district because of a lack of transportation home, would consider the idea. Having lived in the District for only a year, I still find it apalling that the trains shut down at midnight. :
Washington, DC: While they are moving in the right direction, 1:00am is not late enough to change stop people from driving. It should be until at least 2:30 or 3:00am. Moving back the metro closing time would improve the traffic and parking situation and decrease the amount of drivers under the influence. I definitely would leave my car at home if the hours were extended until 3:00am :
Washington DC:
The issue of extending Metro's hours is a double-edged sword.
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washington dc: To really make it more attractive for people to use Metro on Friday and Saturday nights, the trains must run until the bars and clubs close. Its a step in the right direction, but really, the Black Cat, and 9:30 club-goers, make up a small percentage of those who are out late. The clubs in the Connecticut corridor, the clubs by Metro Center, and in Adams-Morgan are inhabited by people who are out much later than 1am, and even with the new rules would have to drive. Metro should run its last trains at around 3am... :
Washinton, DC: Keeping the Metro open unitl 1:00 am will not show a significant increase in ridership. If METRO wants to promote ridership, and if the city wants to promote a safer city that provides alternate transportation to reduce the number of alcohol-drug related accidents then the METRO should be open at least until 3:00 am to allow everyone the opportunity for a "safe" ride home. Wake Up DC! Let's get with the 21st Century. Just because "some" people are home in bed by midnight doesn't mean the rest of the city is. If you want to be a city of the 21st Century, you have to start acting like one. SAFETY FIRST! :
Arlington, VA: This will be the greatest thing to happen to night life in the District since prohibition was lifted. My only concern is will security be increased during the late hours? :
Washington, D.C.:
One a.m. is not late enough. It's better than midnight, but only slightly. If the buses ran later, then it wouldn't be as much of an issue for me, but they don't, and it is. Metro should run all night on the weekends.
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Herndon, VA: Absolutely it will increase the likelyhood of me using the Metro. You mention clubs and concerts, but even more mudane activities like a late movie require metro riders to constantly be checking their watches. What a luxury to be able to sit an extra few minutes and not have to worry about that "last train." I think the reduction of alcohol-influenced drivers on Rte. 66 alone is enough to justify the extra hour of operation. :
Springfield,VA: The whole reason I do not ride the metro is because they close it too early. I'd prefer it to run all night. It's also too expensive. I'm originally from Chicago where I rode the trains all the time; I didn't even own a car. Here they are only useful for people going to and from work. :
Reston, Virginia:
This is a great idea that will probably fall short of expectations.
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Wash DC:
Metro should be open until 2 am. Period.
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Baltimore, MD: I have always thought that a later running time for the metro would make the streets much safer. However, I don't feel that 1 a.m. is late enough. Many people go to events and get extremely intoxicated making the streets unsafe. I think that having the metro open until after the bars close would be the best bet. :
Washington, DC: If WMATA is really serious about encouraging late night weekend subway usage, then the system will have to stay open until at least until 2:00 am to be of any use. I, for one, would definitely take Metro on the weekends if the trains ran until 2 or 3 am. Unfortunately, with the 1 am closing, I'll still be forced to drive to and from events in the city. :
Prince William County: It's too little too late for me. Ten years ago when I was a single college student I would have jumped at the chance to take metro home. No late metro meant driving to where there is parking. But, then I would not have met my wife and would not be living in the 'burbs. :
Arlington, VA: While not wanting to abandon the recently flourishing Clarendon & Courthouse nightlife, I would gladly find myself on the Metro riding to and fro for an expanded repetiore of night spots in DC. I struggle only a moment, with the costs of additional hours and find myself inextricably drawn every time in arguement over expanded Metro hours that the arguement itself is ridiculous. To state the obvious, DC is the capital of the most powerful country in the world, but yet the transportation system that runs underneath its stately malls is far from a source of pride and joy. Open the darn Metro to everyone and anyone who wishes to enjoy a capital city ALL hours of the day and NIGHT. :
Bethesda, MD: I take the metro on a daily basis and think it should be open till one if not later on a daily basis. With the growing population it is almost impossible to find a place to park let alone fight the traffic on the way in to work. As for keeping it open an extra hour, WONDERFUL! Has anyone ever stop to realize that we are one of the few mass transit systems that even close down, let alone at midnight. Think of the possiblities that this could help cut down on drinking and driving. :
washington dc:
Please, Metro, be aware that it takes a long time for folks to: :
Takoma Park, MD: Five years ago I told a friend of mine that Metro should stay open later and that I would gladly pay a higher fare just to be able to stay out later. After all, what's a $5 Metro fare compared to a $15 taxi ride? However, I do think 1 a.m. is still too early! :
Arlington, VA: Where are the MADD lobyists when we need them? The cost of extending the Metro hours of opperation should be definitely be extended if only to decrease the number of drunk driving incidents each year. As a 24 year old working professional I use the metro system to commute to work as well as a means to get to local nightlife attractions. Why should one use be valued over another? My contributions to the local tax pool are just as high if not higher than older commuting professionals in the area. Now consider the increased revenue to local merchants and theaters, and the benefits of using pulbic transportation to by cutting pollution and increasing public safety by having a guaranteed designated driver. The capital costs of extending Metro hours are a necessary investment in improving the DC metro area community. :
Washington, DC: I would definitely ride the metro as opposed to having to spend $5-$20 -depending upon where I am coming from- each time I go out to get home. I think an all-night metro would help decrease drinking and driving, generate a lot of revenue for the Metropolitan Transit Authority and, of course, help people such as myself who enjoy spending time out past midnight -as do most of us- yet do not enjoy having to pay for a cab just to get home. Keep it open all night! :
Derwood, MD: Metro -Rail-Bus-Mont. Co RideOn- should operate 24 hrs day, seven days a week. I have read all of the comments to date and cannot add any other significant reasons. All valid have been stated. What is Metro's priority....service or profit? I understand it is a business, but must profit margin outweigh it's purpose? :
Bethesda, MD: I would like to see Metrorail open a little earlier on the weekends too...Instead of 8:00 a.m. they should open at 7:30 a.m. There are other trains and appointments to keep and you can't get there early if the trains don't operate until almost 8:10 a.m. So on the weekends, Yes 7:30 a.m. would be great as well as staying on until 1 a.m. or even 2 a.m. would be better....I don't see why they have to close so early and open so late on the weekends! NOT ALL OF US HAVE CARS!!!!!!!!!!! And WE NEED the METRORAIL and Buses!!! :
Capitol Hill, Washington DC: A 1:00 AM closing time will not help at all. Most people leave clubs in Georgetown at 2:30, Adams Morgan at 3:00 and the Navy Yard and Downtown at 4:00 am. We need a 24-hour system on Thursday, Friday and Saturday nights at the minimum and ideally every day. This also needs to include a free "trolley shapped" tourbus shuttle to Foggy Bottom and Rosslyn for Georgetown and Dupont Circle North and U Street for Adams Morgan. When I'm in Manhattan, I park my car in the hotel and take the subway everywhere. When I'm at home, I am forced to drive with a few drinks in me, get ripped off by a non-metered cab or stay within my own neighborhood. We are a major US city and should have access to public transportation 24 hours a day. :
Falls Church, VA:
One o'clock would be helpful to me now that I'm married with children. But Metro will have to stay open longer to attract 20-somethings out to party until pushed out the door, last call drink in hand.
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Arlington, VA: What is the benefit of an additional hour of Metro service? Very little - perhaps thousands of extra dollars pumped into the bars and clubs and perhaps as much removed from the pockets of taxicab drivers, and a handful of drunk-driving reductions. At best, this may allow the people who ALREADY call it a night 'round midnight to extend their revelry by an hour, and pick up a few extra riders on the Metro. Who, by the way, are probably insufficient in number to justify the additional operational costs. Duh! The true late-night crowd is unlikely to alter their behavior by such a meager step. This is an overly cautious and ultimately ineffectual gesture - an extension until 3AM is the minimum needed to capture a significant increase in ridership, decrease the public health and human costs of drunk driving, and generate significant economic benefits to bars, clubs, and other late-night establishments. :
Rosslyn, VA: Keeping the metro open later, till 1am, is definitely a step in the right direction. D.C. is more than a city of sleepy bureaucrats, and its time that the opinions of younger generations are taken into consideration. 1am is great, don't get me wrong, but I don't believe it will have a significant impact. That's still too early to catch the crowds who would make the most use of the metro. 2am would be a perfect compromise - hopefully satisfying the conservative philosophies of the TA, as well as easing issues over drinking and driving -believe me, a big one- and parking. The reasons why I don't go out. I would love, even relish the opportunity to enjoy such a diverse city "after hours." Just check out the opinions given so far... :
Capitol Heights, MD:
I don't think it's enough. If Metro is to be of service to the community it needs to service US the DC Metropolitan Community. Metro should be open twenty-four hours,but if there had to be a time it was shut down it should be at 2am at the least and 3am is an ideal time.
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Washington, D.C.: This is a long overdue step taken by the city. Not only will it increase revenue, it will make things safer as well. This also makes college life in D.C. more appealing. Being a student at C.U.A., I know first hand the problems with closing the Metro at midnight. 1:00 may even be too early, 2:00 makes more sense in my opinion. :
dc: I think that metro should be open late only Fri-Sun. who goes out to party on a Tuesday. Metro trains should run when people would be needing it the most. -on the weekends- I also think that the last train should run at 3am. I feel that if the buses in dc can run until 3 why should the trains be any diffrent? :
Arlington, VA: Definitely! Metro needs to stay open all the time. I'd pay more to use it in the evening - although we shouldn't have to. I'd also cut my spending on exorbitant cab fare from Adams Morgan to home. In addition, it would directly affect my drinking and driving! :
Bethesda, MD: Re: Metro's later hours. Although, I would prefer to see the trains running until 2am, Metro's decision to extend service until 1 is a great decision. Public opinion on this subject came down, once again, to the division between those who work in the city and those who live in the city, as made evident by the Post's article published earlier this week. The basic argument is defining Metro's function. Is Metro a commuter rail or a public transportation system for the city of Washington, DC? And if the answer be the second option, then social and entertainment concerns are as pertinent as riding in to work. :
Gaithersburg, MD:
I agree with the general consensus here - extending Metro only an additional hour will not greatly increase ridership, but will allow them to cancel the idea of late night trains because their trial failed.
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Washington, DC: What is the problem with metro staying open so late? I think that if the buses run from 5am until 3am, why should the trains be any diffrent. The only problems I see is with the train operators...Will they feel up to driving the trains and what do the metropersons in the stations feel about staying out an couple of extra hours. :
Arlington, VA:
I will not use extended Metro hours, because even if the stations are safe, the walk TO the station in many bar-oriented areas -9:30 Club especially-is not safe. :
Washinton, DC:
THAT IS FANTASTIC!! the best news of the week and a wise move from dear Metrorail, congratulations!!
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Landover, MD: I think it is a good idea of running an experiment of the trains until 1 am - but how long will this last? Just like the Green Line shortcut was only going to be for 6 months - which went longer, Metro must first advise us -riders- as to how long this experiement will run and stick to its cut-off date :
Arlington, VA: Why is it so hard for Metro to do anything correctly the first time? Politics has once again forced Metro into a position of rolling out a product that while not destined to fail, will not meet the true needs of the public. Multiple proposals from various sources have called for a 2 am closing, yet Metro has put a 1 am closing experiment in place. Our multi-billion dollar Metro system should be available for people who would like to go out in the evenings without driving, and not just commuters. Remember, we all pay for Metro. :
Arlington, VA:
How many other major cities offer subway service past 1 a.m. in the U.S.? Yes, New York does, but when I lived in Boston -with thousands more young, partying college and grad school students-, the subway closed only a little later than the Metro does now. Comparing the hours to European cities would be unfair, since those systems play a more important role in the overall transportation system.
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falls church, va: The largest impact of later hours will be in reducing the drunk drivers on the road. In the past, I have had to drive home from a friend's house after the metro closed when I probably shouldn't have. I would have taken the metro there in the first place if I could have returned hom without my car later. :
Adams Morgan/Woodley Park: I would love it if they kept the metro running later. Parking near my apartment is a nightmare because everyone drives in from the burbs since the metro shortens the night by a few hours. As a result, residents have to fight with people for parking and it's horrible. :
Arlington, VA: I can't Beleive it. Every Major City in Europe, and even a run down city like New York can support all hours-late metro, but we can't even exceed 1 o'clock. The public should stop worrying about the safety of the metro cars and refocus their concerns on the extreme amount of traffic and danger that exists on our highways that are costing way more than what it would take to keep the metro open until 3 or 4 am. Please, don't ruin this opportunity for all of us. Extend the hours. :
Arlington VA: This extension is pathetic. This extension will provide a false representation of projected usage for possibly extending the hours till 3:00AM. Ten times more people will use the metro if they extended operating hours until 3:00. Now 3:00AM will never be. :
Burke, VA: According to the 9-22 Post, it will cost local governments $1.1 million up front and an addition $1.5 million per year for this service. I'm not sure it's the best use of that much public money to save a few people the cab fare home after partying on a Saturday night. :
Washington, DC: OK, let me get this straight. Given tremendous support city-wide for extending Metro hours late into the night, when folk across the city are attending concerts, going out dancing, chatting with friends in restaurants and clubs, and so forth, Metro decides to extend hours by, well, an hour. So, instead of realizing at 11:30 that you have to leave that party, club, or concert when the fun's just beginning, you can now stay til 12:30, and leave when it's in full swing. And only if Metro sees a tremendous rise in ridership in the last hour its open will it consider expanding the hours til...TWO! Something tells me that the folks at Metro, not being idiots, know that the true rise in ridership would be happening between 1:30 and 4. So they won't get that many more riders between 12 and 1 -though I have been thinking about getting on and getting off in that period just to boost their numbers--if enough of us do it, folks...- And then they can say the experiment failed, and go back to the old ways, with lots of inebriated people piling on into their cars. :
Chevy Chase, MD: I use the metro to get into DC in the evening and take a cab back out of the city. I rarely leave before 3:30am. The only effective schedule would be on the half hour or 20 minutes until 4am. You then open up the problem of having ridiculously drunk people on the metro which could lead to fights, vandalism, and injuries. The metro is already dangerous. Add people with no coordination or inhibitions and it becomes stupid. I would love to have the option, but I think there will be a heavy cost for a few happy patrons. peace. :
washington,dc: I wish they would spend the extra money the later hours will cost for maintaining the existing service, like fixing escalators and elevators and keeping trains in service. :
Falls Church, VA:
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Arlington VA: I vote for a 24-hour subway. Keep in mind it's not just the club-n-bar hoppers you're transporting, but people who perform shift-work into the wee hours of the morning. :
Fairfax, Virginia: Why not start the extended hours on October 31st for Halloween? :
columbia, md:
Metro should also consider starting service earlier on weekend mornings. For example, several major airlines have flights that depart from National Airport at 7:00 am. or earlier, forcing anyone booking these flights to drive, take a taxi, or beg a friend -nearly impossible at these hours!-. For those who live outside the city, the cost and incovenience of getting to National is currently too great to justify using the airport. Visitors from out of town can't understand why public transportation isn't available at times when flights are!
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Washington, DC: In my opinion Metro should be open 24 hours a day. There are many night shift commuters -more than you think- that would be able to benifit, as well as latenight party goers. Another idea is Metro could open 5:00am Friday - midnight Sunday. with metro readily availible I believe the accurrances of DWI and DUI would be greatly reduced. Not to mention a reduction in traffic accidents caused by those who are overcome with fatigue after working overtime, or just from partying. Well I guess I spent my two cents!! :
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