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Got Plans?
With the Entertainment Guide Staff
washingtonpost.com

Thursday, March 6, 2003; 1 p.m. ET

Every Thursday at 1 p.m. ET, washingtonpost.com's Entertainment Guide experts share their best bets for local flavor, great dates and family fun. Got plans? Great. Need plans? Just ask. We have the skinny on the bars and clubs, concerts, kitchens, theaters and special events that keep life interesting. We're going out gurus, and we're at your service.

Of course, we're happy to answer questions about local entertainment, but we need to hear from you, too. Introduce us to the coolest DJ or the fastest bartender you've encountered. Sound off on the week's best concert or the city's best burger. Tell us about the best place to amuse little kids or a big art fan. Together we can plan fun ways to spend weekdays, weekends, dates and holidays. The pleasure is ours, and yours.

Each week a different guru will act as host or hostess, but the entire staff is at your service. If you're looking for more ideas, see the Entertainment Guide.

Submit your questions and comments before or during the discussion.

The transcript follows.

Editor's Note: Washingtonpost.com moderators retain editorial control over Live Online discussions and choose the most relevant questions for guests and hosts; guests and hosts can decline to answer questions.

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The Going Out Gurus: Hello everyone. It’s a busy time of year, with Mardi Gras ending, and St. Patrick’s Day, March Madness and Cherry Blossoms on the horizon. What are you all looking forward to?

We wanted to take this time to remind you about our weekly “What to Do” guides like Soundcheck (music) and This Week in Nightlife (bars, clubs, DJs, etc.).

We’re missing Joe and Jen today, but Maura, Alexa, Kate, Anne, Rhome and I (Fritz) are here to try and answer your questions. As always, please try to be as specific as you can when ask us questions. Help us help you.



Downtown Washington, D.C.: My father's girlfriend will be coming into town next week for a job interview, and she wants to meet for dinner. She'll be staying in Foggy Bottom, and I work near Farragut North. I'm a vegetarian, and I don't think her food tastes are too exotic. Any suggestions for a moderately priced restaurant that would be good for an early dinner?

The Going Out Gurus: What you could do, of course, is walk up New Hampshire to Firefly. It isn't too pricey and has a nice feel. There's Galileo for lovely homemade pastas etc., but that can be expensive and snooty. And the new Circle Bistro for an eclectic mix in the One Washington Circle Hotel. Tom reviews it this coming Sunday (read it here tomorrow). -- Alexa


Washington, D.C.: Not so much a question, but a comment. I went to Zaytinya last night and noticed that they are getting into the "Rio Grande" mode of serving food really quick in order to get you out the door. I have been there several times before and I know they did not used to do this. I hope this does not become a trend. Have any of you noticed this? Thanks.

The Going Out Gurus: One of the hazards of popularity?


Glover Park, Washington, D.C.: My friend and I want to get together for dinner tonight, and we want to keep it on the cheap. Strangely, we have both been craving seafood. Any recommendations?

The Going Out Gurus: Perhaps a Georgetown spot like Sea Catch or Clyde's at the happy hour? -- Alexa


Georgetown, Washington, D.C.: Is the new place Mie N Yu a club, or a restaurant or both? Do they have a dress code? Can preppy georgetown people go there, or is it for the elite Euro-clubber types? Do they play music/have a dance floor? Thanks.

The Going Out Gurus: Well, it's certainly not a club, Georgetown. It's a swank, "Eastern"-themed restaurant with a large bar area. There are DJs on the weekends, but it's more of a lounge scene than anything else after, say, 9 p.m.

Who can go? Anyone who can afford the $9 cocktails. I've seen all types of people there on my visits. No dress code (or I haven't been called on one, and I wore jeans and sneakers). -- Fritz


Montgomery Co, Md.: Hey guys! I'm meeting up with a friend for breakfast tomorrow (Friday) morning. Any thoughts of a good place to go in the Rockville/Bethesda area during the week? I'm extremely familiar with good weekend brunch offerings, but I can't come up with a nice weekday option. No greasy spoons or chains (La Madeleine or the Pancake House) please. Thanks!

The Going Out Gurus: I'm throwing this out to the group as I'm not terribly familiar with that area, or good breakfast spots. Can anyone help us? -- Alexa


Capitol Hill, Washington, D.C.: Hi Gurus,
Even though the Post site is filled with bad reviews about the service at RFD, my husband and I decided to brave it last Saturday night (how can we say no to 30 taps). Well, we couldn't even get past the hostess. She was sooo rude. We entered and there was no line but she wouldn't even look up or say anything. Finally we asked for a table and she said "Um, the wait is at least like an hour OK and you will have to check back with me." She barely looked at us. I REALLY wanted to like this place but that attitude made it really hard.
On a separate note, does anybody know what the happy hour special is for tonight at Lounge 201 (I think they usually have one of their specialty drinks for less). Thanks, you all are the best!

The Going Out Gurus: Hey Capitol Hill,
I was there for a birthday on Tuesday night and didn't have a problem. I've been there on weekends, too, but I've heard from folks at the bar that they were really, really slammed on Saturday night, thanks to the Weekend section piece on Friday. It's not a huge place, and when you add an MCI Center event to mix, crowding is going to occur, and I know the owners really don't like crowds of people grouped three-deep around the bar.

Having said that, there's no excuse for rudeness. None. -- Fritz


Washington, DC: Guys: can you help? I work near Dupont Circle but live in Virginia. I usually head straight home after work: I'm not much of a clubbing person or really into the bar scene. But I've had the most horrid week at work, really. Where can I go this afternoon after work around Dupont, and just sit, unwind and have a glass of wine or beer (or two) and a light snack? Nothing too hip or smoky and nothing where I would be bothered, so to speak?

The Going Out Gurus: Relax D.C. I've got two spots for you consider. Both are hotel bars. Washington Circle's Circle Bistro bar area has a nook with a fireplace. Another plus? It's a short ramble from Foggy Bottom's Virginia bound Metro stop -- and if you go tonight or tomorrow evening, you can say you knew it before a certain critic reviewed its food. Alternately, the International Bar at the Washington Plaza Hotel. I think it's the closest thingie our city has to LA's Standard. The deco is groovy, sunny orange and one night outta seven, the cocktails are strongly recommended for the weak walleted. Martinis are $5 every Thursday. Have at. -- Kate


Rockville, Md.: Dear GoGs, I love your chats! My 16-year-old brother and I are going to the Wizards game tomorrow night. He's an extremely picky eater who doesn't like anything ethnic or exotic (hamburgers and mashed potatoes are favorites) and I am on a budget. Where can we go for dinner before the game that won't break my bank (under$10 per entree) and will let him eat what he likes? Thanks a bunch!

The Going Out Gurus: You know there's a Fuddrucker's right there by the MCI. And the District Chop House where I'm sure you can get a burger and mash for under $10. -- Alexa


Wanna Dance in DC: Hi Gurus

I hear Felix in Adams Morgan has Sinatra and Martini night on Wednesdays. Has anyone been there? Is it fun? Do people dance?

Thanks!!

The Going Out Gurus: Hey there,
I usually go for the music, not the dancing. The bands are fabulous, but the space can seem like it's as big as your work cubicle; I think three couples doing swingouts fill the floor. You might want to try anyone spot if you really want to get your dance on. -- Fritz


Germantown, Md.D: I am planning to have dinner at Zaytinya this Saturday and am a little apprehensive about the more than two hours wait that I keep hearing about. Is the bar area nice enough to spend two hours. Is there anything else to do near Zaytinya while we wait?

The Going Out Gurus: Yes, the bar is great, though I suspect everyone waiting waits there. You could do a nice little hop. Have a drink at Zola, or Poste down the street beforehand. -- Alexa


Washington, D.C.: Hello Gurus,
It's a friend's birthday Friday and I offered to go out wherever she wanted. She wants to go dancing -- I'm not John Travolta, I'm not even Ellen Travolta -- but want her to have a good time. Any suggstions for a place that offers a fun dance mix, maybe not booming bass or solely 80s, where a guy with awkward moves will be seen as "innovative" rather than "inept?"

The Going Out Gurus: All's you need is a crowded dance floor. What about VIP's Friday special? There's a salsa lesson, free hors d'oeuvres, and Lord knows both of these will keep you in the innovated column. for a long time to come. -- Kate


Fairfax, Va.: In RFD's defense, I went there last night for happy hour with a group of about eight people and had excellent service. We were seated promptly. The host was friendly. And the service was excellent. The waiter was very attentive and accomodating to people in our group who arrived late. Great food, too!

The Going Out Gurus: More R.F.D. ... by the way, I had the exact same experience on Tuesday -- right down to people arriving late because of Metro problems. The servers were very accomodating. -- Fritz


Bethesda, MD: So I read your review and now I want some more feedback from the chatters. What's the word on Aroma on Connecticut Ave.? Fun place to hang or expensive and crowded?

The Going Out Gurus: Go for it, Bethesda. The chatters give positive feedback on Aroma in this very forum -- at least monthly, one of us sings its praises -- check the archives. So, definitely, it's crowded on weekends, because it's stylish but still comfortable, and one-of-its-kind in Cleveland Park.


Lounge 201: Read your review of this place and it sounds like I need to check it out. But can you tell me more about what the crowd is like? Is it young and internish like other Hill bars or are the drink prices bringing in an older crowd?

The Going Out Gurus: I think it gets an older, more, um, sophisticated crowd than many of the other hill bars. (I mean, a coatcheck?) If you feel too old (or too mature) for the Lounge or Tortilla Coast, you should check it out.

That said, I don't mind the Lounge every now and then. But I'm sold on the cocktails at 201. -- Fritz


RFD: The poster may have had problems getting into RFD on Saturday because of the crowd from the MCI Center (G'town-Syracuse game). My friends and I made it in before the crowds and had a table near the door. We kept hearing the hostess tell everyone there was an hour wait for the bar. The crowd thinned out after 40 minutes or so. One guy ignored the hostess and walked right in. He was escorted out!

The Going Out Gurus: That's what I think, too. -- Fritz


DC: Advice for Zaytinya - we went last Saturday night around 6:45. Was told the wait would be an hour or more. We went to the bar, and after about 15 minutes we managed to score some seats at the bar. Ordered a drink and and some falafel. Shortly after the food arrived (about 30 minute wait total) we were seated. But by the time we left (about 8:30) there was hardly even room to stand in the bar. So my advice is go early - and you can just always just eat at the bar if you can manage to snag a seat! By the way, the food was very good, but for me, there is not a single restaurant I would be willing to wait two hours for.

The Going Out Gurus: Righto D.C. Thanks for sharing.


Re: Breakfast in Bethesda: There is a really awesome greek diner right outside the Bethesda Metro stop (on Old Georgetown) that serves cheap and tasty classic breakfasts, but I've only been on weekends and the washingtonpost.com search is acting quirky so I can't seek it out. If you have a car, and don't mind a chain, there is also a Manhatten Bagel and a Panera Bread up on Rockville Pike. Any hotel serves breakfast every day of the week.

Hope that helps a little.

The Going Out Gurus: How nice you are. Thank you.


Silver Spring, Md.: Dear Gurus,

In your Feb 20 chat, a reader who's planning a trip to England asked about local sources of pub-style real ale (hand-pumped, casked conditioned). You mentioned places like District Chophouse, John Harvard, Rock Bottoms, the Reef (on Mondays), and of course R.F.D., the Brickskeller's new outpost.

It's worth noting that the Brickskeller itself features real ales, on Friday and Saturday nights after 7, at their upstairs bar. You can enjoy them while looking over the impressive collection of beer memorabilia on the walls.

-Local Beer Nut, Not Affiliated with The Brick.

The Going Out Gurus: True. I didn't mention that? Hmmm. But it's been my experience recently that the casks at R.F.D. have been better lately -- and there were 2 weekends when there were no casks at all at the Brick (delivery problems), but R.F.D. had theirs.

That said, I love the Brick's casks. -- Fritz


Silver Spring, Md.: GoGu's,

Here's the drama: You wait in line at a nightspot with a date and a few other couples. The doorman finally "gets" to your group and only wants to let the ladies in while the brothers chill outside. I'm of the opinion that a place like that can't have a dime of my money and they're going to hear about it right then and there. We're talking about Dream, 1223, 18th Street Lounge and the like. I can see why clubs won't let in a group of five or six guys, but why split up a group of couples-ladies only first? Don't these idiots that run these clubs realize who is paying for cover charges and drinks?

The Going Out Gurus: I personally try to avoid places that will make me and a ladyfriend split up, particularly to be herded into different cover charge lines. My experience has also been that places that aren't wack will welcome a couple rather than give them a harder time. Dream has usually fallen into the former category in my experience, ESL in the latter (notwithstanding the randomly changing cover charges and suitability for entrance criteria). On a given night and with any given doorman though, you can't predict what you'll get. Bottomline it's their spot, they can do what they want. It's your loot, you can do with it what you want. Vote with your patronage, walk away if you must. Complaining about it isn't really effective when the rest of the folk herded behind the velvet rope are willing to fall at the mercy of the doorman to get in. - Rhome


washington, dc: Where's your favorite place for sushi? My Ole' Reliable was kind of so-so the last two times I went, and I'm looking for someplace new. Thanks!

The Going Out Gurus: Washington, if you're looking for another old reliable, I'd suggest Sushi Taro (it just reopened yesterday), Matuba (Arlington), Spices, or Sushi Ko. -- Maura


Washington, D.C.: Gurus!

Help! For four years +, my rowdy work group and I have been loyal supporters of Fanatics Bar (and Archibalds on occasion, wink wink).

Anyway, we work downtown, and are looking to branch out. Any suggestions for Happy Hours on the cheap in mid-town?

The Going Out Gurus: Stoney's. Mackey's. Sign of the Whale. Fox and Hounds. (Okay, it's Dupont, but not THAT far.) All have cheap beer and discounted eats. -- Fritz


Washington, D.C.: What have you heard about when the "peak" cherry blossom time will be? Are they making predictions yet?
Thanks!

The Going Out Gurus: The Park Service has delayed their prediction announcement by a week; they'll now be announcing it next Monday. We'll let you know soon as we can. In the meantime, make plans for these Cherry Blossom Festival events. After seeing daffodil tops busting out all over town, I'm convinced that spring is not far off now... -- Anne


Silver Spring, Md.: Help guys,

My 21-year-old sister is coming in town for the weekend and I want to take her out. A college friend in town for her spring break wants us to go to Cafe Citron on Saturday since she had possible plans to go there with another friend and suggests we make it a group affair. She claims you can drink there and dance if you want but you don't have to. So I looked it up on the Post site, it got a good profile review, but there were some hate it as well as love it reader reviews.

Fritz (or anybody else who knows), what's the deal? Cool place or overcrowded and only fun if you like to dance to foreign music? My boyfriend and a couple of his friends might join us, and they like new places but aren't necessarily dancers. is this gonna work, or should I try to make other plans if the original person who wanted to go there doesn't go? Thanks. I'm pretty open to things but want to make everybody feel happy.

The Going Out Gurus: Fritz and I agree. Citron's cool, alright and good for groups, even yours. -- Kate


Washington, D.C.: To all those asking about dancing: there's nothing better in the city than the Black Cat's monthly Mousetrap dance night. There's one this Saturday. Most of the people are young and cute, but everyone has a good time.

The Going Out Gurus: Yes, it's a great time if you like Britpop, Indie Rock and crowds of people.


Washington, D.C.: Somehow I keep meeting guys that don't drink. Not that I'm a lush, but where can I meet Fritz or even a Fritz clone?

The Going Out Gurus: Just go back through the archives and it's pretty easy to figure out where he goes: places that serve beer or cocktails.


Spy Museum: Why oh why are there still lines a mile long for this place? I went last Sat, around 11 am, and the line was around the block. But it's not even tourist season? Do you think it will ever die down? I don't want to pay 11 bucks to be smushed with other people...
oh have you heard of the new Asian fusion place on MacArthur, brand new?

The Going Out Gurus: I think we can expect lines around the Spy Museum every weekend for a while. If you can wait until March 15, the museum will close at 8pm every day through October. That might be your best bet.

As for fusion on MacArthur, I'm once again stumped, but will check it out. -- Maura


Sushi: My favorite everyday sushi is at Uni. And they also have a great happy hour! But I can't understand why the place is rarely full.

The Going Out Gurus: A vote for Uni.


NW Washington: Would it be fair to say that DC is a go out late town that doesn't really stay open all that late? Getting a table at some downtown restaurants is really tough if you try to go on the humbug. Maybe if someone could get this town to stop rolling up the sidewalks at last call....

The Going Out Gurus: I think 11 p.m. is a fine time for restaurants to close. It's not often that I want dinner any later than that. Any later and I'd have to call it breakfast. -- Alexa


Washington, D.C.: Hi there! A dear friend of mine is coming into town over the weekend. We would like to have a girls-night-out on Saturday in order to celebrate my law school acceptance and her recent break-up (long story). Seeing as I never get the chance to go out, I need to get your advice. Where would you suggest we go to partay? Anywhere in the Washington metro area would be great. We would like to visit a place that won't break the bank and that affords us the opportunity to do a little dancing, if we so desire. Thanks so much!

The Going Out Gurus: Hey DC, I know we're called "The Gurus" and I guess folks think we're all-knowing (psych!) but this chat thing is a 2-way street. What kind of music and dancing do you like? Where do you usually go and do you consider that affordable or pricey? Do you like dressy or come-as-you-are? Huge and bustling or intimate? Since you admittedly don't get out often I'm giving you another shot at this one. Like Fritz said, "help us help you." - Rhome


Mousetrap: The Catfish Shack, which specializes in
early R&B, Garage and other wild 50s
and 60s music is dowstairs that same
night.
It is free. Free is good.

The Going Out Gurus: Free is always good. As are the Catfish Shack guys.


Burke, Va.: When will the Kite Festival be held on the mall this year? Will it be delayed due to the piles of snow/mud?

The Going Out Gurus: Come mud, come whatever, the Smithsonian Kite Festival is still scheduled for March 22 and it's probably not gonna change. If that date doesn't work for you, there's other kite festivals too. So get out your glue, your wooden dowels, miles of string, and start building. -- Anne


Cleveland Park, Washington, D.C.: I don't understand the Aroma praise. I've been there several times, and the scene is pretty boring: thankfully not too snotty, but still cliquish. The music is stale and typical. The bartenders are good, if kinda slow (socializing a bit much?). The back part is decorated and furnished well, but still leaves me rather cold.

The Going Out Gurus: What do you like better, CP?


Washington, D.C.: Why do you think people are so hesitant to explore on the bars on their own that they write in on whether a particular place is worth checking out?

The Going Out Gurus: Well, Washington, because there's planning involved -- everyone has to meet somewhere, travel there, find a place to park, possibly pay a cover and then wonder about what the average drink price is going to be. I mean, I try to cover all of this stuff in reviews (for post.com or Weekend), but I don't mind people asking. Really. I know that I often ask my friends if they've been to such-and-such a bar, especially if it's new, or I'd really have to travel to get there. Of course, I usually wind up going anyway ... -- Fritz


Alexandria, Va.: It seems that most of my friends are out of town this weekend so I am looking for a suggestion for something for a female to do by herself on Saturday night -- music suggestions, restaurant suggestions. Also, any suggestions for restaurants that take reservations around the MCI center on Sunday night. Thanks as always for your help.

The Going Out Gurus: Are there any Oscar-nominated movies that you haven't seen yet, that you simply must in order to win the pool that you and your no-accountedly absent friends will undoubtedly make? Like "The Hours" or "Far From Heaven" or Denmark's entry for best foreign film "Open Hearts" -- it's opening tomorrow at the Cineplex Odeon in Dupont. I enjoy single movie-going and highly recommend it. -- Kate


Washington, D.C.: Are there any strip clubs in the District (or very nearby) for women with male dancers? We miss our Chippendales!

The Going Out Gurus: Yes. You're looking for a Girls Night Out at Wet.


Glover Park, Washington, D.C.: Hi,

A friend is coming into town this weekend and I was thinking of taking her to RFD on Saturday night, but we are not to into waiting in line with no place to sit. We were thinking about some place to hang out with fun music, a chill scene and friendly people. Any ideas?

The Going Out Gurus: Okay, let me clear this up: R.F.D. has no problem with people waiting at the bar for a table. But as I understand (and others have said), the place was swamped with people having beers before the Georgetown basketball game. Check the MCI Center schedule, or, better yet, try to make reservations.


Love the Chat!: HEY GOG's - I have 2 cents to offer:
I have been out to dinner twice in the last month with large groups (10+). The first place we went was Buca di Beppo. While I wasn't that impressed with the food, each of the 14 people there only paid about $15, and that included the wine! The second place we went was The Melting Pot, where, without alcohol, we each paid about $19. I just wanted to point out that it is possible to go out in DC (with a large group) and as long as no one over orders, have a great, fun meal.

Now for my question: a friend of mine is looking for a costume supply store in Maryland. I know of a couple in the district, but do you have any suggestions?
Thank you!

The Going Out Gurus: Thanks for the two cents, LTC. Glad you stayed in budget. You could also give Penang or Austin Grill a try. Maybe readers have other ideas.

For costume supplies in Maryland, I just spoke with the owner of Costumes Creative last week. I'm sure she'd help you find what you need. -- Maura


Burleith, DC: Hey GoGs

What's your favorite of the DC Kimpton hotel lounge places? Heading out with some out of towners looking for a cool lounge. My vote is for Helix, but I haven't been to Poste or Firefly. Any thoughts?

The Going Out Gurus: In order (at this moment, and ranked by bar only): Helix, Rouge, Topaz, Poste, Firefly. Helix is never as jammed as Rouge, but Rouge is very slick looking (and has a new food/drink menu). -- Fritz


Washington, DC: Hi Gurus,
My birthday is coming up and I was thinking of getting a group of 10 to 12 people together for dinner. I'm intrigued by this new Indian restaurant Indique. Would they have room for such a large party? Would it be a fun place for a meal with plenty of drinking thrown in? Thanks.

The Going Out Gurus: Indique would be a fab place for that. Just call ahead to make a reservation, and they'll put two tables together for you.


Irish Question for my Staying In Gurus: My sweet bonnie lass will be convalescing from a procedure, so Saint Patrick's Day will be celebrated with videos in bed, rather than green beer. I was trying to think of some good Irish flavored videos, but the only one that came to mind was "Hear My Song" and "Ned Devine." I’m fishing for other upbeat recommendations, I’m not looking for "Michael Collins." Other ideas for celebrating a reclining Saint Patrick’s Day would also be appreciated.

In a related aside, we were trying to identify the great Irish Rock and Roll Bands; but only came up with U2, Thin Lizzy and Them. Is that all?

The Going Out Gurus: Other great Irish bands: The Pogues (say our lass Maura McCarthy), while I'll add Ash and the Stiff Little Fingers.

Other other Irish videos: The whole Roddy Doyle series: THe Commitments, Snapper, the Van, My Left Foot, The Playboy ...

Anyone else? -- Fritz


Dupont Circle: Years ago, I lived in Silver Spring and would go to Pollo Rico in Wheaton once a week for rotisserie chicken, secret green sauce, and yucca fries. Awesome, excellent chicken. Now I'm a hip resident of the fashionable U-Street corridor. Any suggestions for a Dupont/Adamas Morgan place that serves great chicken? I like it when it comes fresh off the ferris wheel and gets hacked into odd-shaped pieces right before my eyes.

The Going Out Gurus: At the corner of 18th and Columbia the staff at Granja d'Oro will eviscerate squab, roast it, and hack it to bits with loving hands and honest cleavers. And they'll serve it up with plenty of spicy green sauce and homemade mayo in tiny, tiny plastic cups. You'll feel like you never left SS. I get it go at least once a month. -- Kate


The logic escapes me: "I can see why clubs won't let in a group of five or six guys."

But I can't. Are they tallying the ratio?

The Going Out Gurus: The science goes like this. Women are the key to a succesful nightlife event. Call it sexist, call it anything you want except for un-true, cuz that's how it is. Think about it. A party with a nice balance of men and women is cool, a party with way more women than men also works because women can have fun and be interesting and festive without male involvement. But when you have more dudes than ladies? Party done. Dudes will stand around holding up the wall, eyeing each other suspiciously because they're all in competition for the finite supply of ladies. No one likes a sausage party. Ha! A group of girls all dancing together is nice to see. A group of dudes? The only time that happens is in b-boy circles and mosh pits. Otherwise NO ONE wants to see that and it won't happen anyway. Clubs are often concerned that dudes are just more aggressive, more likely to get drunk and fight when they're in greater numbers. I'm sure I'll get bashed for this but I stick by it. - Rhome


Alexandria, Va.: Fritz,

I saw your article on R.F.D. in Weekend and wanted to say that while I agreed with most of it, especially about the beer, I was disappointed with the place itself. It looks like they just put a fresh coat of paint on Coco Loco. I was hoping it would be more like a pub, but not as dirty as the Brickskeller. It's too bright. But I'll still be going back for the cask ales.

The Going Out Gurus: Jeez, Y'all love to talk about R.F.D., don't you? I agree that's it's bright, spacious, and not at all like the Brickskeller. I think (and hope) people like that about R.F.D. -- Fritz


all about chicken fingers: i have been pondering a book dedicated to the wonderous edible comodity known as the chicken finger.

do you have any area recomendations for me to check out?

The Going Out Gurus: Shouldn't you be the one recommending them to us? A book on the subject would certainly make you an expert in my eyes. -- Alexa


1223: Is 1223 still the "in" place to go to? I haven't been for sometime and wondered if it's worth it to go back? Rumor has it they are letting in anyone these days -- not just the pretty people.

The Going Out Gurus: The proletariat has definitely made inroads into that spot after being courted out of necessity. Seems like a textbook case of the wonders of market equilibrium. - Rhome


Ballston, VA: Burger tip: met a friend for happy hour in Bethesda and went to McCormick and Schmick's. Tasty burgers, half price (w/a 2 drink minimum.) Seriously. The burger was really good. I will be going back.

The Going Out Gurus: I'm a huge fan of the M&S downtown. But add two $5 beers and the bargin dwindles a bit. -- Fritz


Dupont, Washington, D.C.: Hi, my dad and sister are coming to visit, and my sister isn't 21 yet. Any ideas for fun, pub-ish places where dad and I could have a pint but still bring along my little sis? Also, what do you think are the best bets for asain/pan-asian food around Dupont? Thanks!

The Going Out Gurus: Sadly, Dupont, there aren't many places that won't card you at the door -- at least on weekends. You could always go to, say, the Reef, Nanny O'Brien's or Biddy Mulligan's for dinner, and stay afterwards for a drink. -- Fritz


Arlington, Va. -- old married ladies!: Where can a group of over-30 (but under-35) ladies who are all married go for a brew after work on Fridays? We like a laid-back atmosphere, no chi-chi cocktails or valet parking is required. Not looking to see or be seen, just wanna drink good beer and chat. Arlington or Alexandria would be preferred. Help!

The Going Out Gurus: Whitey's, Iota, and Jay's all come to mind right away. The Rock Bottom Brewery, too. -- Fritz


Washington, D.C.: With so many TV shows and movies being filmed in D.C., I think it would be fun to be an extra. How can I register to be an extra or find out about shoots that are looking for extras? Thanks.

The Going Out Gurus: Central Casting is THE casting agent in town. There are always announcements in Weekend's "Guide to the Lively Arts" and when possible we flag them in our movies section and in our weekly e-mail. Do you get our e-mail? There are no auditions this week -- last week there was an audition for a John Travolta/Joachim Pheonix flick. -- Kate


Search for drinking men, Washington, D.C.: Have you ever been to Adams Morgan? I think all the guys I've met there drink. Men of all ages, of all volumes, of all slurs. Focus: Adams Mill, Madam's Organ, Toledo Lounge and my new favorite, The Angry Inch! (when it's not crowded.) You will definitely meet serious drinkers at Dan's Cafe, too.

The Going Out Gurus: When isn't Angry Inch crowded, besides at 7 p.m.?
But there you go.


re: 1223: Yes, I would agree. 1223, when last I was there, was not exactly groovin'. In fact, it was an excellent example of Rhome's point about what happens when you let in too many -older] men and not enough young and sassy women. There you have it... it's on the outs. Anyone care to disagree?

The Going Out Gurus: On the outs or just on one end of a pendulum swing?


From New Jersey: I love the chat! I recently moved here from New Jersey, and my parents and sister are visiting this weekend. They've never been to the city before. Do you have ideas as to what touristy things we can see? Thanks.

The Going Out Gurus: New Jersey, it sounds like this might be the first of many visits, so just try not to overwhelm them and they'll have a fantastic time. Hit some of the big ticket monuments and memorials -- Washington, Lincoln, Jefferson, Vietnam -- and a couple museums -- National Gallery, Air and Space. Relax and indulge in some off the Mall dining. Should weather permit, stroll through a neighborhood like Georgetown or Capitol Hill. All right, I'm now feeling overwhelmed. Just check out our Visitors Guide and narrow down your choices. Have fun. -- Maura


20017: Fritz: it seems like every week when asked about dress codes, whether at swank or dive places, you say you got in with just jeans and sneakers. Have you ever been turned away as a Post reviewer for your threads? Do you even own black slacks, and when's the last time you wore them?

The Going Out Gurus: I own black slacks. I own custom-tailored suits, too, and I wear them when a place has an advertised dress code (Home, Juste Lounge and Vida are recent examples). But I feel comfortable in jeans and vintage sneakers, so that's what I wear out.

And yes, I've been turned away for not being dressy enough, but only once or twice. So was Eric Brace. Not a big deal, as far as I'm concerned. It can happy to (I think) anyone. -- Fritz


Downton Washington, D.C.: I love Helix too, but I was there last week right after work -- about 6:30 -- and the "background" music was so loud I could not hear anyone at my table without leaning in. And this was a small table of three! I asked the waitress if they could turn the music down just a notch, and while she was super nice, no change.

I think this is a problem -- folks who are getting together in that happy hour time, say 6-8, usually want to talk and catch up. Most places play music lower, than increase the volume as the night wears on. I'm I a fuddy-duddy all alone in this concern?

Thanks, y'all are the best.

The Going Out Gurus: I'm with you, DW. I'm a total fuddy-duddy (like you, the best kind of f-d, note) when it comes to "background" rackets. I lodged a similar complaint last weekend at the Diner in Adams Morgan. The loud speakers were belching Steve Miller Band all over my french toast. So obnoxious, and let's face it, way uncool. I asked the server to ask the manager and no change. So I wrote a letter. Let's see what happens. I'd hate for us to have to toast/happy hour elsewhere or earlier. -- Kate


In defense of Aroma: I love that place. Yes it can be crowded on the weekends, but during the week it's a nice place to go relax, have a drink, and chat with the very friendly and very capable bartenders. Plus Lily was a bartender of the month!

The Going Out Gurus: So was Krishna!


Irish Film Question: Films: The Matchmaker, the Quiet man, Michael Collins, the Boxer, Agnus Brown, Circle of Friends, and The Closer you Get..

Music: Irish Tenors, U2, Enya, Mary Black, the Chieftians, Van Morrison.

- a local O'

The Going Out Gurus: Ta.


Washington DC: Just wanted to say thanks for your recommendation of Utopia (for my out of town co-working group) a few weeks back. We actually ended up doing Full Kee and Bar Rouge - but you've put it in my head and I'll definitely get there soon.

Now then, any ideas on a good tres gay-friendly spot to invite all my friends as a post Executive Director visit here (I'll be exhausted and possibly not that fashionable), pre-going away for two weeks to a conference in Miami (yes, I'm happy about that) evening out?

The Going Out Gurus: Have you considered drinks at Larry's Lounge and dinner right next door at Wazuri? Larry's is low-key, gay but not gay-la! and Wazuri serves up some spicy African plates, plenty of cocktails too. Good for groups. -- Kate


Cockledoodledoo: Kate:
A squab is a squab and a chicken is a chicken. Not the same. Did you mean a chicken or a squab?

The Going Out Gurus: Poetic license. A chook is a chook is a chook is a chook.


Alexandria, Va.: I am in the beginning stages of planning a bridal shower but I'm not looking to do the traditional ribbons, lace and little sandwich type party. I'd like to take the bride to a quiet lunch with about five other women, then to a day spa for a little pampering and then meet up with the groom and his friends for dinner. Any suggestions would be a lifesaver!

The Going Out Gurus: What neighborhood are you looking for, Alexandria? Any classy restaurant that is open for lunch on weekends will probably be quiet enough to charm your group. Perhaps you'd want to pick one near the spa. Check over this list of day spas -- they're picked by our readers as their favorites.


re: 1223: I hear 1223 has an open bar saturday nights until 11. It must be pretty bad if that doesn't get people flocking to it.

The Going Out Gurus: There's nothing like free drinks to drum up business.


Washington, D.C.: Guys,

A friend said a while back that his band played in the back room at Mackey's. Does Mackey's ever have live music? I thought it was just a soccer/futbol hangout type of bar. (My dad, brother and I've gone there after D.C. United games.) Am I missing something, or was he pulling my leg?

-Curious

The Going Out Gurus: No, Washington, they've had occasional bands there, but it's not (as far as I know) a regular deal. -- Fritz


Cleveland Park, Washington, D.C. (Aroma option cop-out): I don't feel the bars there; it's a great spot for eats, however. Aroma gets mad praise, but I just don't see it. Usually, I head to Mt. Pleasant for the Raven (apples and orangutans, I know) or Marx Cafe for my drink on. However, both those neighborhoods have yet to realize their potential, imo.

The Going Out Gurus: Hear that, Mount Pleasant?


Adams Morgan, Washington, D.C.: Any soccer fans out there? I was wondering if you all had some sort of list of pickup games -- particularly those in D.C., particularly on the Mall. The snow's thawed and I gotta get my footy on. Thanks.

The Going Out Gurus: You live in Adams Morgan and have never played pickup in Malcolm X (Meridian Hill) Park? I think you're a pretty suspect footballer my friend. The pan-ethnic athletic soap opera that takes place on the pitch is always entertaining. The africans, south and central americans, brazilians, europeans and west indians all trying to communicate (and curse each other out) makes for thrilling play. I'll be down there as soon as it dries out. - Rhome


Dupont Circle, Washington, D.C.: Hey Gurus,

Do you think we'll soon see smoke-free bars citywide here in D.C.? If they can do it in the whole state of California, and even in New York City, surely we can clear the air here?

The Going Out Gurus: I hope not, Dupont, and I don't even smoke. But many, many of the bartenders I know do, and I know people in New York who are up in arms about this. I'm all in favor of non-smoking bars and non-smoking floors within bars, but not a total ban. -- Fritz


Bethesda, Md.: Hey GOGs! This may be a little off-topic, but I'm stuck on ideas.

My BF and I recently got engaged. Now he'll be moving in w/me in Bethesda this spring. He's from Northern Maryland, and moving to the "city" will be different experience for him (hopefully a good one!). I'm looking to put together a "Welcome to the City" package together as a Housewarming gift on his move-in day. I thought I would include a super-charged Metro ticket for our outings, maybe some restaurant gift-cert. Would you or the posters have any other ideas of items to add? He's a pretty down-home guy, so no exotic foods, or club-style ideas would more fit his needs. I don't want to scare the guy!

Thanks!

The Going Out Gurus: A Metro smart card is a wise idea, Bethesda. Don't forget the Metro map. I'd throw in a restaurant gift certificate, maybe tickets to a show at 9:30 or something similar, movie tickets to Loews Georgetown, Shakespeare or Kennedy Center tickets if he's game and Spy Museum passes for a start. -- Maura


Woodley Park, Washington, D.C.: Love the discussion, gurus, but haven't been able to check in the past few weeks. Any word on the new pub/bar in Adams-Morgan, Angry Inch? What about the little jungle-decorated bar under Reef? One last one -- the new bar? club? lounge? that has opened up in Georgetown Station? Just want to know the dirt before I commit a weekend night to any of these new places. Thanks!

The Going Out Gurus: Hey neighbor,
You'll find reviews of both of those in the Bars and Clubs section of the Entertainment Guide. I love the latter and can sort of understand why people pack the former, but it's not my cub of tea. I like Mie N Yu, but it's an expensive night out if you want to grab a bite to eat. Also, the bar gets crowded rather quickly. -- Fritz


Alexandria, Va.: For my husband's birthday, I want to find a fun wine or beer tasting class that we can take together. Any suggestions? He's done these before so I don't want anything basic.
Thanks!

The Going Out Gurus: Alexandria, Grapeseed in Bethesda and the Starland Cafe on MacArthur are two good spots for smaller scale tastings/classes. -- Maura


For Washington: Stressed Washington should go to Biddy Mulligans or the lucky Bar. LB has good foo, and I've been there alone to wait for people with no troubles. Cheer up!

The Going Out Gurus: More bar advice.


Cleveland Park, DC: Anyone who thinks Aroma's music is stale should go there this Saturday (and every 2nd Saturday). It will be the opposite of stale.

(yeah, fresh.)

The Going Out Gurus: Anyone who thinks Aroma's music is stale hasn't been there to see DJ Dredd (Fridays after 10) or on Thursdays to hear the mind-blowing Nicki Gonzales.


Fairfax, Va.: Several of my friends are coming down from Wilmington, Del. I'd like to show them a good time without having to go to a nightclub or terribly loud and overcrowded bar. Any suggestions?

The Going Out Gurus: Want to take them out for a show and a drink at a quieter hotel bar? I bet you'll have fun at a table where there's lots of people-watching to do.


The art of the dart: Hello GOGs.

I am looking for a nice place to go play darts, something along the lines of Atomic: cheap brews, jukebox, no (well, at least less) attitude. The thing is, I have noticed that sometimes novices such as myself will get bullied out of their boards, or at the very least be subjected to sneers and pressure to leave from the more seasoned pros waiting to play. Is there a chill place where I can play without having to worry that I'm taking the favorite board of someone whose name is all over the trophy wall? I used to like the 4 Ps until someone bamboozled me, stating "house rules." Is there a place for me out there? Thanks.

The Going Out Gurus: Try the Reef or the Black Rooster Pub, perhaps. Or Mickey's Patio, if it's not "prime time." -- Fritz


The Going Out Gurus: Thanks for yet another 75+ minutes of fun, but it's time for us to go. We're really sorry that we couldn't get to everyone's questions, but we'd encourage you to join us next Thursday, when we'll be talking St. Patrick's Day, NCAA basketball, and why Fritz keeping singing the chorus to Nelly's new single ("Pimp Juice") to no one in particular. See you then. -- The Going Out Gurus


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