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Nightwatch -- Live
Hosted by Eric Brace
Washington Post Nightwatch columnist
Friday, Jan. 4, 2002; 3 p.m. EST

Where's the best karaoke joint? What's the best brewpub around? Who was that band that rocked at the Black Cat last week? For the answer to any going-out-in-Washington question, just ask Eric Brace -- our resident nightwatchman.

From backstage at the annual Wammies (Washington's own Grammy Awards) to karaoke at Galaxy Hut to swing dancing at the Glen Echo Spanish Ballroom, every week Post staff writer Eric Brace throws himself on the front lines of the bar-n'-music beat in the Washington area. A Washington resident for nearly 30 years, Brace started with the Style section in 1990, where he wrote live music reviews and filed longer feature stories on the likes of Fugazi, Jawbox, Pearl Jam, Stephane Grappelli and many others. Then he created the Nightwatch column, which appears every week in The Post's Weekend section and on washingtonpost.com's Bars and Clubs page. He also sings and plays guitar for the country-rock band Last Train Home.

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Eric Brace: Happy New Year, all y'all.
I hear bad things went down with some of the big New Year's parties. got some complaints about the Four Seasons one in particular. My on-the-spot correspondent complained that for $150 they didn't even get a champagne toast. I haven't confirmed that yet, but anyone else have a comment about their New Year's Eve? Wadjadoo?
And what do you want to see happen in town this year on the scene? I'd love to see Metro stay open til 2 every night, but with all the budget going to security issues, I KNOW that's not going to happen.
Any personal resolutions re bars/bands/clubs/dancing/drinking???
onward.

Washington, DC: Do you know of any Welsch bars in the area? I am craving some Felinfoel brews and have only been able to find their ESB at the Brickskeller for (yikes) $9.50 per bottle. There's gotta be a better place, no?

washingtonpost.com: The ESB is less than that at Bedrock Billiards - about $6, I think.

Eric Brace: I'll start with a question which my man Fritz has already answered (Fritz Hahn is the nightlife editor of washingtonpost.com and deserves lots of props for the fine work he does. hey Fritz, what are YOUR nightlife resolutions for 2002?)
And no, there are NOT any specifically Welsh bars in the area.

I've not been to the Brickskeller in a while, but was bummed when my pals told me they didn't carry my new favorite beers: Australia's Cascade Premium Ale and Boag's Lager. If they can't provide me with THOSE what's the point in going??
Meanwhile, big ups to Bedrock for bringing in your fave ESB for cheaper. Now I'll go there and try it.

Adams Morgan: Hey, Eric. I saw Canyon last night for the first time last night at the Metro Cafe. I really enjoyed the show. Do you know much about these guys? I hear they come from an Emo background, which didn't really make sense or seem apparent.

Eric Brace: You are a music lover of taste and discretion.
Canyon is, by my reckoning, one of the finest bands in town. I can't get you many details on them, but I'm hoping to soon. i've seen em a few times, and have them on my list to write about in my column early in 2002. They play in the opening slot on Monday at IOTa, along with another really really good band, Golden.
Canyon is kinda like classic rock on the sensitive side (neil young, pink floyd) mid tempo stuff, with some weird sparklhorse-y roots/country thrown in.. the emo stuff is in the leader's lyrics perhaps??

Rockville, MD: I have just discovered the joys of Basement Jaxx and Thunderball. I am in love with techno right now. I look forward to WHFS' "Transmissions" on Saturday night's at midnight. Now, I need to know what else I am missing out on in this area? Any suggestions?

Eric Brace: Thunderball is one of my faves in town. They're on ESL records and will be headlining a 9:30 show with other esl acts on Feb 9, with Ursula 1000 and Nicola Conte.
In this area, Doug "95 North" Smith does fine stuff at Red a couple of saturdays a month... DJ Oji and DJ pope do good stuff at Sanctuary on Fridays (at Vicki's on 9th st) and at Red... Blue Room on Sundays has Filler night, the most cutting edge stuff you'll hear in town. .. umm. Buzz of course. And a new club will probably open in February, where the Buzz folks like John Tab and Scott Henry will join forces with, perhaps the Deep Dish guys..
Hey, tangentially, I hear 12 Inch Records store is closing at the end of the month...

Sterling: Eric, I red a recent article where you mentioned Sanctuary is an Electronica-type club/event. Hope you don't mean to say that House is Electronica!!

Eric Brace: I was using the term "electronica" the way the Grammy folks use it: anything that's got electronically generated beats. House would fall into that category by that definition, but you're right. I do often get lost in the finer distinctions on this stuff: house, deep house, epic house, microscopic, drum'n'bass, 2-step, clicks-and-cuts, click house, ambient... so sometimes I get lazy and just call it all electronica.

A-town: I went to the Hyatt and had a blast. Drinks were easy to get, the ratio was 50/50, the music was good, the crowd was mid-twenties and attractive. I've heard more horry stories from friends about going to bars and paying $30-$50 and finding it nearly impossible to get in and then once in, get a drink. I know partying in mass is not the "cool" thing to do (especially if you write for the Post), but people who went to the Hyatt and Hilton had only good things to say.

Eric Brace: Hey now... i have no problems "partying en masse" so I'm not sure what you mean by that snide aside about writing for the post!!
I think it's a grand thing that Hilton and Hyatt party goes had a good time. To me, anything that gets people out of the house is a good thing.
Ive heard bad things about several bars as well. but $30-$50 is marginally better to swallow when having a bad time than $150 at, say, the Four Seasons.

Adams Morgan: It was tough to catch the Canyon lyrics, with the vocal mix and all, but the ones that I did catch seemed to share in the music's rootsy, wistful vibe- sleepy towns and restless journeys. If I got to Iota on Monday, what can I expect from Golden?

Eric Brace: sleepy towns, restless journeys... dang, you're almost a rock critic! Just throw in "compeling" and "kinetic rhythms" and you're there! Just kidding. Your description of Canyon's stuff is perfect and beautiful.
Golden is more ZZTop guitars, but with errrr.. kinetci rhythms. really. amazing drummer. really fun and pulls you along like a big truck rolling down that highway. But it's not a lonesome highway.. its a crowded one with people from all over the world driving cheap cars with smoke coming out of the tailpipe.

Rockville: These DJs are House DJ's:
Doug "95 North" Smith
DJ Oji and DJ pope

Eric Brace: There you go. I like em. whatever they're spinning.

washington,d.c.: Can you provide more information or listings for HR-57 and its activites, including Thad Jones Jazz Orchestra?

Eric Brace: Thad Jones plays with his orchestra every THursday at HR-57, one of the best nights in town.
There's more info (not that much) at www.hr57.org . They have lots of jam sessions... and storytelling stuff.

Gaithersburger: Just wanted to mention that there's a great Blues Jam going on Thursday nights at the Zoo Bar. It's now hosted by Flat Foot Sam & the Educated Fools, and it is first class. This month he's featuring different guitar players like Pete Kanarras (Nighthawks) and Steve Johnson (Carey Bell) - along with local favorites Rusty Bogart and Mike Dutton. A different guitarist each week!

Eric Brace: Flatfoot sam is really great performer.. has the swingin jump blues thing down, even with his little combo the Educated Fools. that sounds like a fun jam.

DC: Bedrock has a GREAT beer selection in general. And talk to management there if you have beer ideas or requests, as they always like new ideas and can be willing to try a lot of different things. They know they have a good beer crowd there. Just don't stand in the way of those of us trying to shoot pool while talking to them!

washingtonpost.com: If you have a question about beer at Bedrock, ask Brian the manager/bartender. He was our Bartender of the Month last September.

Eric Brace: Yeah, they DO have a great beer selection. no Cascade though.

SW Washington, D.C.: Hi Eric,

Care to comment on the crappy radio stations we have in the area? Remember when HFS and DC101 were good? Even PGC and KYS were better five or 10 years ago. What happened to independent radio? Even good college radio? The University of Maryland has some decent radio but that's it.

Eric Brace: Boy.. if ever the world was ready for new radio it's right now.
DC has the worst radio imaginable.. i can't imagine the FCC (and Colin Powell's business-cozy son who's in charge there) truly thinks that Clear Channel Communications (that owns 8 -- i think -- stations in DC) is considering the "public interest" .. something all stations are supposed to do. They suck suck suck.
powell also killed any ANY ANY discussion of low-power radio licences, something the previous FCC Chairman was actively considering granting. oooo don't want a 100 watt station to get in the way of li'l old Clear Channel...
I think the only answer is for everyone to NOT listen to ugly commercial radio so ad revenue goes down and they're FORCED to change something intheir formats. Get your radio from the internet.. subscribe to XM satellite radio, which is trying something new (I got my folks an XM receiver and service for christmas... tried it out for the first time last night.. it has lots and lots of promise!!)
Independent radio disappeared when pop music became controlled by five major international communication comglomerates. only "product" from those companies gets played on most commercial radio stations. Payola is alive and well. Playlists shrink so that only "sure things" by established artists get played.
Washington - and the world - deserves wayyyyy better.
(having said all that: WRNR in annapolis is pretty great, 103.1 if you can get it.)

Zoo Bar: Yeah, that sounds like fun. Now, if only the beer didn't taste funny and they'd change the deep-frying oil!

Eric Brace: You nailed it. They DEFINITELY need to clean out the beer lines and change the oil over at Zoo Bar... really badly.

Falls Church: Deep Dish just got Grammy nomination for remix of Dido's "Thank You". Do you think they are real "DC DJs" because they are never in DC and aren't as appreciated in the US as much as in Europe and elsewhere? Other than a Buzz act every now and then, they rarely stick around. Also, what do you think of Saeed and Palash's DJing all over the world and not getting print in DC?

Eric Brace: Deep Dish is currently doing a regular thing at Buzz.. ummm every other month?? I forget.. And also, they'll be performing more regularly when this purported new club opens soon near Nation.
I think they're absolutely a DC act.. they cut their teeth in clubs here. they live here. They work in studios here sometimes. They've STARTED to get the local support they deserve, but touring a lot and not playing every week in town doesn't mean they shouldn't be considered FROM here. Fugazi only plays a couple times a year in DC, but they're a DC band, right? Saeed and Palash have gotten a little ink in town (the CP, as I recall, did a little something on them a while back), but you're right, they deserve more attention, and I should write about em in my column.. next time they spin in town, I'll try to feature them.

Dupont: What went wrong at the four seasons? Gimme the deets!

Eric Brace: I honestly don't know the deets, I was hoping someone would enlighten more.. but I'll call the promoters and find out. What I heard was that (besides not having a champagne toast) the themed rooms (there were four of them) were less than impressively themed. Travel poster of N'orleans in the N'orleans room.. that kind of thing.. but i don't want to slag the event when i don't know.. so i'll go find out.

Reminicing radio:: Remember the great Afropop radio show that was on Saturday mornings? I think on AU's radio until it was bought or cancelled or suffered some sad fate.

I recommend the jazz show on public radio that comes on at 5 pm on Sundays.

Eric Brace: There's lots of great jazz and soul and latin and reggae on WPFW 89.3..
there's bluegrass and old country on WAMU 88.5 (not to mention hot jazz saturday night at 7 on saturdays.. rob bamberger and eddie stubb [3 pm saturday] on AMU are my faves)
Don't remember the afropop show though.

Washington DC:
As an XM subscriber I can tell all out there it is great. 100 channels so the diversity of music is great. You actually get to hear new music all the time. Totally worth the 10 bucks a month.

Eric Brace: and there's an african music channel too....

Snide Aside : I think that person may have been talking about your comments in todays paper. If so, I agree. Writing an article about places that neither the you or the owner seem to want me to go to is quite absurd. You for years have made negative comments about "frat boys" and "jocks in baseball hats". Why write about a place that announces it doesn't like but a small segment of our local populace? I don't go around calling those patrons Euro-trash. Maybe I should.

Eric Brace: well, I didn't say frat party in todays paper...
There are lots of places that have door policies in place. If club owners don't want a "certain type" of clientele, they're allowed to have those policies.. I've only been to Blue Room on Sundays, Tuesdays and Wednesdays, so I've never seen the door policy in place. Yes the owner's a bit elitist, but so are the owners of Dream, 1223, Dragonfly, eighteenth Street lounge, and countless others that don't allow ball caps, khakis, sweat gear, etc. That's the owners prerogative. How do you feel about those places? i've written about them too. Not writing about them won't make them disappear, and they are interesting venues on the nightlife scene.
I DO want you to go to Blue Room. Go on a slow night. You won't get hassled. It's a nice place. The owner just wants peole who will like the music and the "chill vibe"... I don't know why that upsets you so much. As I said to people who've complained about waiting in line to get into 1223 or wherever: don't go there. I wouldn't stand in line (though I have countless times to be a good reporter.. I've seen the worst of door policies). If someone doesn't want me in their club, hell, I'll go to Dan's Cafe or the Fox and Hounds, or Hank Dietles or Renzos.. y'know? I try to check out the whole spectrum.

Adams Morgan: Eric -

The only REAL Australian beer you can get in the USA is Coopers, from Adelaide. It is quite similiar to the Cascade and Boags from Tasmania that you so enjoyed drinking down under. I love the VB also.

Isn't Melbourne a great city? Great bars, live music, restauants. I wish DC had more of that vibe.

Eric Brace: Melbourne's amazing..
and the only cooper's I've been able to quaff here is the stout, not their fine pale ale. VB rocks as well.. what is it about those Aussies and great beer?? No one drinks Fosters there, as you know...

Sterling: My resolution....explore more House, Electronica, Downtempo, Progressive House clubs/DJ crews in the area. Hope you cover more cause DC is getting noticed overseas.

Eric Brace: My resolution: to learn more about all these styles and the distinctions between them so I'll be smarter when i write about them.
My second resolution: write about that music more.
DC is VERY well known for its DJ scene around the world...

Arlington: What is Patrick DeSantos up to these days? Where is he singing?

Eric Brace: Ahh Patrick , oneof the best pure vocalists in town..
I was just talking to hm about his "chansons francaises" nights that he does with keyboardist didier prossaird and bassist steve sachse on sundays at Chi Cha Lounge and mondays at Gua-Rapo.
He's also at Chi Cha on wednesday with his brazilian trio. That's his regular gig schedule for now.
He's working on his CD, which he says will be out by summer.

DC: What are the best places in town to dance to salsa music?

Eric Brace: my favorite is cecilia's on columbia pike in arlington, on thursdays when Orquesta Romana plays.. always best to play to a live band...
Zanzibar on wednesdays is good..
Habana Village most nights is fabbbbbbbulous.

NW DC: Eric, this is (I believe) the quote in question from today's story: "Because of the Blue Room's location in the heart of 18th Street's night life strip, it gets its share of those folks (you know who I mean) who think a night on the town is all about killing the keg."

One could imply that you were referring to frat boys and "jocks with baseball caps."

Eric Brace: There are plenty of humans who never belonged to a fraternity or played on a sporting team who feel that getting hammered and whooping it up in public is the way to let off steam on a weekend night.
I did NOT make the leap of broadbrushing certain collegiate or athletic types that you are accusing me of making. In fact when I was called on using "frat boy" in a column three years ago, I apologised profusely, and have never used it again, nor implied it, in any of my columns. The imference you're drawing is yours.

Northwest: Wouldn't you call blocking business to someone based on their appearance profiling and/or discrimination? That seems like a huge taboo in today's America.

Eric Brace: it IS discrimination, absolutely, but door policies based on clothing are NOT illegal. They have been tested in courts and held up. I couldn't go to the Prime Rib on K street to hear their amazing pianist last week until they supplied me with jacket and tie. Silly? Yes.
Illegal? no.
I could probably sue, and find a lawyer to represent me, but I'd lose.
I'm MUCH more concerned with discrimination against minor who want to get into bars but can't because of 21-and-older policies. There's NO LAW that says minors can't go into clubs. They simply can't drink. Hurray for 9:30 club, black cat and the other few all -ages clubs around.
If I was 18 and was not allowed into a club to see my favorite band I think I WOULD sue.

Fosters isn't Real?: Say it ain't so! Isn't it Australian for beer? Next you'll be telling me that Irish eat more than cabbage and bad beef and that crab rangoon really isn't authentic Chinese! Oh, the agony of hearing the truth!

Eric Brace: why do I think I'm being made fun of here?
but seriously.. I TRIED to find a Fosters in a bar when I was there.. jsut to see if i could.. nope. They must send it all here.

DC: I'm not sure this counts as a nightlife question. Evening life maybe?

I'm looking for happy hour places. Good drinks, pleasant settings, in general, places to have a drink, and a snack, and a conversation. Any ideas?

Eric Brace: I like hotel bars: mayflower, ritz carlton, topaz, rouge, tabard inn.. quieter.. nice atmosphere..
but also, this site has a huge list of happy hours, which fritz will post right after this answer..

alex, va : hi eric
how was your new years?

it's not a resolution, but i am dying to find a new bar to go to. i need one or two really strong recommendations. can you help a girl out?

i'm looking for something loungy, cheap, dark and divy. (think red room - the black cat, galaxy hut, and royal lee)

i guess something classier wouldn't kill me, but we've been around to some bars and the crowds, the drunken idiots that spill beer on you, and the almost legalized prostitution ain't doing it for me.

kinda long, but thanks.

Eric Brace: Jay's Saloon in arlington.. Quarry House, Dietle's and Renzo's in Silver Spring, Hank Dietle's in Rockville, the Raven in Mt Pleasant.. hmmm I'm forgetting something....

Four Seasons gripes: A group of us went to the party there. It was just how you described, the main room was a lot of fun, but other rooms were incredibly small to dance in (to the other themed music like Salsa for Miami and Big Band for Las Vegas). You are right that there was no toast. Lines for bars were horrible. There were plenty of bar stations but not enough bartenders. It seemed and sounded like a good idea, but was just poorly executed.

Eric Brace: there you go.. thanks.. sorry.

Arlington, VA: For beer, you might try the Lost Dog Cafe in Arlington. They have all kinds of fun beers from around the world there!

Eric Brace: good call.. but no australian cascade there either. good pizza tho'

Brazil Music: Eric, I love Axe, Samba, and Brazilian music. Where in DC area can I hear Brazilian sounds?

Eric Brace: check out Patrick DeSantos on Wednesdays at ChiCha Lounge.. and Tom Brazil in adams morgan has some stuff...
For live stuff, there's not much.. piped in stuff at places like Grill From Ipanema.

washingtonpost.com: Searchable, sortable happy hour listings.

Drumaville: New Year's complaints -- I went with several friends to the State's Nighthawks 30th Anniversary party. $50 for the show. $22 additional for 3-course dinner (only three selections each course). We had reservations. It took 45 minutes for us to get the salad, more than an hour after that to get the entre' (and all the prime rib was seriously undercooked), and a total of more than 2.5 hours to get through the meal. Meanwhile, the show had gotten underway and people began milling around our table to watch the show while we tried to eat. Complaints to the waiter got us nowhere ("it'll be right out"--25 minutes later it still was not at our table); complaint to the manager got us "it takes a while to serve 600 people"--which may be true, but there couldn't have been more than 150-200 people eating dinner, they were only cooking a total of NINE items, and they already knew the size of the dinner crowd before we arrived! It was a horrendous performance from a venue that always serves up good music but frequently lacks anything resembling decent service for food and drinks.

The show, however, was super.

Eric Brace: Boy, that's no good.
State has gotten better on most of the issues that have plagued it, but service clearly needs some attention..

Petworth: So, found any good places in my neighborhood to hang out at yet?

And as for resolutions - I'm resolving to try a new place at least once a month. And I want music venues to resolve to book in good bands/musicians and start their shows on time!

Eric Brace: I've wandered around Petworth since our last chat, looking for places other than Safari DC, and haven't found any....
I'll keep my eyes out though.
those are GOOD resolutions..

DC: Simple solution -- You don't like the way a club discriminates against the way people are dressed, you don't go to that club. Approaching my late-30's, I don't have time for hoping a bouncer thinks I look good enough to get into a bar or club. I take my money someplace else.

Eric Brace: My feelings exactly.

wdc: This may not exactly be a nightlife question either, but I'll ask anyway...

A friend of mine works in concert/show sound production, and was contemplating a move to the DC area. Any idea what the job market for that sort of thing is?

thanks for entertaining the query...

Eric Brace: There are lots of promoters and production companies inthe area,many more than most cities:
IMP Productions (9:30 club and other stuff)
wolf trap, SFX.Clear channel (nissan, merriweather post), birchmere, kennedy center, Nation folks.. NPR and XM radio do production work as well.
and there's lots of non-profit event organisers, and corporate sound companies... your pal should be able to find something.

Dupont Circle: As a bartender working New Year's Eve, the night was much more mellow than anticipated. A little rowdiness around 11:30-12:45...then people began pairing off, or writing limericks on bevnaps alone or generally drifting into mellow intoxication. The servers managed to cause more trouble than the customers this year...but jello shots will do that to you, I suppose.

Eric Brace: Servers drinking on the job!! I'm SHOCKED..SHOCKED.
... other than that, your description is how I felt about it too. Limericks? Any memorable ones??

re: new year's eve: i kept it small this year and just bopped around between parties. the only thing i would have fathomed going to was esl since thievery corporation was there. but $60 just to get in and then the cost of drinks. not possible on my soon to be elmintated internet job. its ridiculous that almost every club AND bar now charges some ridiculous price just to get in, only to have watered down drinks and cheap champagne. you'll never see me at any of those big hotel parties.

Eric Brace: well.. there's the assumption that since it's a special night, people will pay "special" prices.
I still would have liked to have heard Thievery spin, since they're so dang good.
Small new years eve is how lots of my friends did it.

Guided by Brace: Eric -- What did you think of David Segal's article about playing with Guided By Voices? How would you feel if you had paid to see that, er, episode?

Eric Brace: I think he fulfilled a rock dream of his playing with his heroes.. but rock shouldn't be about heroes, i don't think. And the whole thing felt a little funny to me.

Snide Aside Again: I have been to Dragonfly, ChiCha, and a couple of the others. Had no problem with treatment. But if they only way you can be "chill" is to ALWAYS wear a nightclub "uniform" of black on black then keep cool, daddy-o. I know when I go to the Inn at Little Washington for dinner each spring how to dress properly. But to get sized up at the door of 18th Street Lounge and be "rated" is beyond silly.

Eric Brace: Hey, look.. I AGREE with you completely. The folks at Blue Room weren't really talking about clothes, they were talking about BEHAVIOR. They don't want rowdy drunks, so they do what they can to avoid having them enter their club. Having said that: hell what do you expect when you open a club. people will come and drink and get stupid, so YES, it's a little disingenuous to complain about people drinking and going "woo! woo!" when you're in the bar business. it's still their right to try to define their clientele the way they want.
p.s. there are many other ways of dressing besides black on black that don't include sweats or ball -caps (for the record, i frequently wear ball caps, and I have been known to drink too much.)

Montgomery Village, Maryland: What I am searching for is a pub/bar that has lots of US microwbrewed beers available. I am much more interested in trying a new Dogfish Head brew (delaware) or a great brew from Frederick Maryland so that I can actually go visit the breweries someday. Anyway any suggestions for places in either Maryland or DC?

Eric Brace: there aren't many places with selections like you want.
Brickskeller. Lost Dog. They make a point of getting u.s. microbrews in stock.
By the way, Summit Station in Frederick is a brewpub definitely worth a trip.

DC: I liked the comments in today's paper about a place that was for hanging out and chilling and talking rather than getting drunk and being obnoxious!

Please, there are enough place for the frat-boy crowd. Let us (to hop back to a few weeks ago) older and quieter types who want to appreciate the music, the company, and sip cocktails and wine and beer rather than slam shooters have a few places too.

And face it, Mr/Ms Snide Aside, you don't want us in your bars any more than we want you in our bars.

Eric Brace: okay then.. i don't see why we can't just all get along.... folks will go to bars that welcome them.
I've been hassled in bars because of the clothes I wear, the color of my skin, my age, my lack of a credit card, my shoes, my sexual preference, the language I'm speaking. When it's a hassle, I don't return.
we all tend to find the places we're most comfortable in.. that's human nature.
Most owners of clubs open places that THEY'D WANT TO HANG OUT IN.. so I can't fault them for wanting to find clientele that's kinda like themselves... this is true for Hank Dietle's as well as for 18th st lounge or Blue room or carpool...

Eric Brace: Folks, i'm all done.
If you've got something more to say about all this, please feel free to send me a note to nightwatch@washpost.com
Check in two weeks from now.. we'll talk more about nightlife and such.
Thanks for checking in...
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